“Most club-level bands lose money when they tour,”

“So I don’t know how they make money, to be honest, unless it’s [through song] placements, sponsorships — all the stuff that comes from the non-music world; brands that want to be associated with music. The touring part — you’re lucky if you come out in the black.

“But you have to get out there. It’s kind of a necessary evil. If you’re a young band and you’re trying to get discovered, you definitely have to tour, because your fans want to see you, and that’s the way you get better as a live band. It’s necessary, but I don’t think anybody’s getting rich off of it.”

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